Curse

Doc Roboto · Jun 10, 2008, 08:03 AM // 08:03

After lag killed off a few attempts at survivor, I decided to take lag (luck) out of the survivor equation.

Heres a build that can pretty much guarantee the survivor title for any profession (except perhaps dervish), where you take 0 damage, can stand in the middle of a mob, and cast no spells, staying at full health.

The players skills can be anything of choice to 'solo' the jade brotherhood outside the marketplace in Wajjun Bazaar.

Survivor wears any armor with all superior runes and a -50 cesta to bring health to 55.

Due to interrupts, mesmer primary or secondary makes things much easier.

3 monk heros (works fine with the 2 lvl 15's and Ogden at lvl 20)

Tahlkora

Prot Prayers @ 13, rest to DF

Balthazars Spirit
Protective Bond
Life Bond
Watchful Spirit
Blessed Signet

Dunkoro

Prot Prayers @ 13, rest to DF

Balthazars Spirit
Protective Bond
Life Bond
Life Barrier
Blessed Signet

Ogden

Prot Prayers @ 13, Healing Prayers @ 13, rest to DF

Balthazars Spirit
Protective Bond
Life Bond
Mending
Blessed Signet

The order of casting is important. All heros cast balthazars spirit on themselves to start. Then each cast Protective Bond on the survivor, followed by Life Bond. Keep the order of maintained enchantments the same as listed above. When its all done, the 55 survivor can roam around and take alot of 0's for dmg.

When you first enter the area from the marketplace, run to the shrine to your left to avoid an untimely aggro by some jade brotherhood nearby.

Keep in mind that killing a boss will increase the damage you take to 1 per hit.
The build I used here was for a Mo/Me: [Build=OwUTMMHD3JCYQWCuVcyaUfIPAA]

While this build holds little value for anything BUT the survivor title, its still perhaps worthwhile for people with poor connections (Lag Kills).

Hope a few of you find this useful

Luminarus · Jun 10, 2008, 08:14 AM // 08:14

Looks alot slower then the other method.

Washi · Jun 10, 2008, 08:49 AM // 08:49

Here's a hint: HFFF

ReZDoGG · Jun 10, 2008, 08:54 AM // 08:54

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Originally Posted by Luminarus

Looks alot slower then the other method.

It possibly can be faster and safer than other methods if you can find a quick access area that has alot of easy enemies to take down quickly (such as Jade Brotherhood outside Marketplace). It can also handle lag outs, since you survive without any skill usage. I've tried it out myself with my ritualist just to test it, and I was definately impressed how well it handled 20+ enemies or more. I was able to take on as many enemies as I can pull, killed them all with Echo VwK no problems. The only thing with the build, it that it would be best to have a primary with a good farming elite skill such as VwK or SoJ, which those two would be best as they both target the enemies that attack you. Other skills such as SS can still be good, or using Splinter Weapon type builds could still be effective with the right enemies. But yeah, It would definately be wise to pick out a profession with the best skill possible, I would have to go with Ritualist and Echo VwK along with Mantra of Resolve. Good thing about a Rit is that VwK will negate the damage you will take from having 105hp while holding an item, then take 0 damage with 55hp when VwK is not in use. Echo VwK with other Rit or Mesmer skills are definately a great combo for quick clearing of enemies.

I wouldn't put the method down until you have tried it yourself, I was one of the first people that Doc showed the build/method to and I was very impressed when I found out how it worked. I knew right off it that it could be very useful for something... He mentioned using it for Survivor, then I knew thats exactly what it could be used for. A fail safe Survivor method...

ReZDoGG · Jun 10, 2008, 08:58 AM // 08:58

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Originally Posted by Washi

Here's a hint: HFFF

That is a bit more risky knowing you have to go through alot of missions in factions just to do HFFF. It also would be a bit less Exp gain compared to taking on 20+ enemies at once with or without scrolls. With Exp Scrolls, you could possibly gain 20k exp in bout 8-10 minutes in HM, less in NM of course.

Rothan Celt · Jun 10, 2008, 09:43 AM // 09:43

Bwarling ftw

Luminarus · Jun 10, 2008, 10:01 AM // 10:01

Must admit, i didnt think of applications elsewhere, but against jade bro's it would be slower because the current method of essentially 600/smite does it really fast.

ReZDoGG · Jun 10, 2008, 10:02 AM // 10:02

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Originally Posted by Rothan Celt

Bwarling ftw

You can lag out and get your azz knocked out at same time, I've heard people complain about failing because of that. Its good, but less exp, and not as completely safe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminarus

Must admit, i didnt think of applications elsewhere, but against jade bro's it would be slower because the current method of essentially 600/smite does it really fast.

Yeah, but its not as fool proof. The whole point of this is how easy it is to achieve survivor and has no worries about failing, period. Dualing would be alot riskier than Brawling or HFFF. You can gain about 8k exp in about 8-10 minutes in HM killing the nearest Jade Brotherhoods in the area, that includes all the mesmers, ritualist, mages, and the boss. With Scrolls, that would be quite of bit. Not to mention you can make money doing it in such a fail safe way.

Doc Roboto · Jun 10, 2008, 10:11 AM // 10:11

If you use the build as posted, it's fast and very safe.
If you use Heros Insight, 32,000 exp every 10 mins (with the smite build posted) is simple.
Can also toss QZ in the mix.
Echoed Judges Intervention at 16 smiting = 190 armor ignoring dmg every 2 seconds (thanks to QZ) makes for short work.

Rothan Celt · Jun 10, 2008, 11:49 AM // 11:49

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Originally Posted by ReZDoGG

You can lag out and get your azz knocked out at same time, I've heard people complain about failing because of that. Its good, but less exp, and not as completely safe.

True i did get a dude up to rank 2 and i died cus of lag

well a powercut infact

At anyrate only someone who is asking for trouble would ever play a surv char when he/she is lagging i know that random lag spikes do apparently happen to some ppl but not me

its all down to how much you want to risk. Brawling gives you a income aswell often i can afford a lightbringer scroll after each run so it was all good til i got my powercut

But when you say less exp..... your wrong

Shayne Hawke · Jun 10, 2008, 12:38 PM // 12:38

I've never seen a farming setup where a person used multiple copies of Life Bond or Protective Bond. Anyone care to explain to me how those would stack, or if they wouldn't do that at all? Also, with overlapping Protective Bonds, how would the energy loss work?

Guardian Of Legend · Jun 10, 2008, 04:38 PM // 16:38

you guys are makiing it hard... Go the easy route, stoneskin punchout at lvl 10 and get LS in 6hrs. i have two LS's and both i just created a character and ran them to KC and did 10 quests which got me 2k-3k exp and became lvl10 then went to gunnars and did punchout for 6hrs straight with LB scrolls, and got it and made some gold of stuff I merched.

Reinfire · Jun 10, 2008, 04:42 PM // 16:42

Making it hard is what's making it fun. Sure you can farm your way to LS in a matter of hours but that way it doesnt feel like an achievement

Doc Roboto · Jun 10, 2008, 07:29 PM // 19:29

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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

I've never seen a farming setup where a person used multiple copies of Life Bond or Protective Bond. Anyone care to explain to me how those would stack, or if they wouldn't do that at all? Also, with overlapping Protective Bonds, how would the energy loss work?

The reason for multiple Protective Bond is the energy division. With 3 copies running the heros lose 1 energy per hit as opposed to 3 making it sustainable.
Life bond triggers energy gain equal to the amount lost via balthazars spirit.

Doc Roboto · Jun 10, 2008, 07:33 PM // 19:33

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Originally Posted by Guardian Of Legend

you guys are makiing it hard... Go the easy route, stoneskin punchout at lvl 10 and get LS in 6hrs. i have two LS's and both i just created a character and ran them to KC and did 10 quests which got me 2k-3k exp and became lvl10 then went to gunnars and did punchout for 6hrs straight with LB scrolls, and got it and made some gold of stuff I merched.

As stated in the original post, this is tailored for people with lag issues. Its a fast and different way to obtain LS with minimal risk. Not everyone has a good connection. Making it hard would be redoing a character several times and losing repeatedly. This is for those people. Obviously not designed to be epic, just use it if it helps you.